From the very outset, Postcarbon has also adopted that wait-and-see attitude. It is true that they have propagated the rural solution (see this link), and partly worked it out, but they did not have formulated any economic interventions as to how you can make that rural solution possible en masse. It is as if these movements are reluctant to imagine a rural future for themselves. As if food is not their prime cup of tea, and can be handled with by farmers (and banks!).